Adam

How old were you at that time?

Jennifer

I was probably 17, almost 18, when this movie came out. And at the time, I just got drawn to like Christian music all of a sudden. After I watched that movie, a seed was planted in my heart. I didn’t even know. And I remember just playing it, and my secular friends like, why are you playing this music? I like it, it gives me peace, you know?

I remember looking through colleges I wanna go to, and Liberty was one of the colleges that I was looking into. So at the time they were growing, right? They were even sending out money for students to test them out. And I was one of those kids visiting the college, and I’m like, I’m gonna go here.

I didn’t know anything about the difference between being unsaved and saved. I just knew, okay, well, I kind of believe in God, and God sounds like a cool concept. I got there, and I remember struggling with my major. My parents had such high expectations for their kids to be doctors or lawyers. And I’m like, okay, I’m gonna study biology.

It didn’t really work out in the first semester. I flunked, I’m in trouble now. I need to figure out something. This is definitely not my calling. I reached out to my academic advisor, and she was also teaching a class that day.

She said, ” Okay, well, just stop by.” We had an appointment; this was not just some random meeting. She said, ” Well, just stop by my classroom, and we’ll talk, and I’ll help you out.” On that day, I came to the classroom, and she was not there.

It was a random theology professor who was there. Now that I think about it, that was God’s servant. He was placing this man in my path for a reason. Had it not been him, I don’t think I would have been saved.

We just chatted about the weather, and then he asked me, how did I get there? How did I get to Liberty? And we talked about my faith, which I was raised in a Catholic family, but didn’t really practice. He knew instantly that I didn’t have a relationship with God. So he did his best to explain to me what grace and salvation are, what sin is.

He even drew pictures for me. He was really breaking it down. He was teaching me theology one-on-one in 30 minutes. I remember he said, “Do you wanna accept Jesus into your heart?”

Jesus into my heart? I don’t even know what that is, but it sounded good. I know he died for me, so we did the sinner’s prayer, and it was nothing like I was walking down the aisle crying or anything. It was just like, oh, okay, that’s it?

He’s like, yeah, you’re good now. But that was the key, the opening key to me seeing the other side of the spiritual realm like I never had before. So I remember going to bed that night, and I was staying in a dorm room with other girls. And I hope I didn’t really speak in my dreams, but I remember just going to sleep, dozing off, and I had this, I don’t know if it’s a dream or a vision. It would just seem so realistic.

It was so realistic. It was such a sticky dream that I remember every detail to this day. And it’s been 21, 22 years ago. I remember being in this dark place, this dark place that I now know is the outer darkness, which the Bible describes as hell. I didn’t know where I was.

I was confused. And I remember I’m just like being consumed by this anxiety, this confusion. And that’s how people feel in hell: confusion, anxiety, right? I’m like, why am I so afraid? I’m so filled with fear.

I can’t see myself. I can’t even see my hands. I remember looking in the distance, and there was this group of pale figures, which I got closer to, and they looked almost reptilian, like different shapes. They were bigger than us for sure. And they were surrounding this man.

They surround this man, staring at him, tormenting him. And I looked, and his whole stomach was cut open. It was just cut open, and like organs were in it. I got scared.

It was like the worst thing that you can see, right? So I was just running. I was just running away from them because their eyes turned on me. And I started running.

I could feel them chasing me. I didn’t know where I was running. I just knew that place was dark, dead, and I didn’t know which direction to run. There was maybe something that I tripped over. There was like a rock or something like that.

I would have landed on my face had it not been for this arm that just grabbed me. And I could feel it in my chest, like this impact. And as I was grabbed, I was pulled to the side, and almost like I floated, right? Just floated to the side, to the back of this man, and I instantly knew who he was. He was Jesus.

I knew in that moment, my soul was crying out for Jesus, right? So I didn’t even have to yell at Jesus. My soul was crying out, and he knew I needed his help. So he came to rescue me, and I couldn’t see his face. And I was wondering this, you know, all these years, why I couldn’t see his face.

It’s almost like that story of Moses, where he couldn’t see the face of God. Because we’re mortals, we’re still living, right? But I remember I couldn’t see his face, but I could see his hair, like the back of his head. It was like this chest brown color, chestnut brown color. And this robe that he had on was like white, but he had this golden light that was emanating out of him.

I was looking at him in awe. I’m like, wow, like this light just, that was coming out of him. It was just permeating this room, permeating this place, this dark place, where I could see, as soon as he appeared, like the demons, they couldn’t handle his presence either. So they couldn’t handle him. And obviously, they flew back, hit something, or disappeared.

But that was my first encounter with God. Even though I didn’t speak directly to him, it was my first encounter with God. And as soon as I woke up, I didn’t know what to make out of it. I told my roommate, my doormate, she was like, oh, you know, Jesus loves you. That was it.

I didn’t know what to make out of it. I just know for a fact that I had an encounter with Jesus. I wish I could spend more time with him. I had a peace about it that I’d never felt in my life. And I guess, maybe days after that, I had another dream.

But this time, when I look back on it, I think Satan knows the potential that God has in you. That God sees the potential in everyone, right? He was just out there to confuse me, confuse my identity, right? So I was a new Christian, and I didn’t even know the books of the Bible.

I can tell you that the first convocation that I ever went to, at Liberty, I couldn’t find the book of Matthew. And this girl, she just kind of smiled, and she was so nice. And she pointed out where the book of Matthew was as we were going through the scriptures. So Satan knew I was gullible, maybe vulnerable at this point. He’s like, well, she’s a new Christian.

I’m just gonna confuse her. So the second dream, I remember I was in this bedroom, I was trying to evangelize somebody. I was telling somebody about Jesus. And this guy, he just looked at me, and he’s like, you know, I don’t believe you. I don’t really believe anything that you said.

I’m like, why not? He’s like, because I listened to my grandmother. And the grandmother is just a symbolic figure. Cause as soon as he said that, I got sucked into this dark realm again. And this time, I saw a pale figure that was in front of me. I just got pulled up. I lost control of my body. I just couldn’t have, I couldn’t walk away.

It was just pulling me towards it. And as I got closer, I could see that I knew instantly who it was, even though it was masquerading as a different figure. I remember it looked like a transgender male. I can tell you that.

I realized I knew exactly who it was; it was Satan. It’s almost like my soul, we just know each other, right? I didn’t have to be introduced to him. I just knew. And I looked at him, he looked at me, you know, I could see that he had red lipstick on, this long white hair that he had on, pale figure again. What he had on was like a very provocative outfit, very sexualized. And I could tell he had no gender.

He started to speak scriptures. You know, now that I know about it, he was just challenging me. I’m like, why is this challenging me with the word of God, right? But now that I’ve read scriptures, the word of God is a sword, right? It’s a weapon.

He’s using this, and I remember, even though I didn’t know the word, because I was saved, for some reason in my spirit, I knew that it was twisted. I just didn’t know how to respond to it. And I remember as soon as I opened my mouth to say something, it wasn’t me who was speaking. It was God who was speaking. Because I could feel scriptures coming out of me at the speed of light.

That was how fast it was. And this went on back and forth, back and forth between Satan and me. And at the end, I remember he got so mad. He was so frustrated. He just opened his mouth, and this snake came out of his mouth, and it tried to bite me, but I woke up.

After that dream, I just didn’t know what to make of it. It was just very scary to me. You know, I was still a new baby Christian. I didn’t know how to handle that. I didn’t know how to handle spiritual warfare.

I had this shame about me this whole time about any dreams that I had, this is why I don’t go out and tell people, right, all these years. I don’t go out and tell people, like, oh my God, I had these dreams, because I was always afraid that people would think that I’m crazy. Even Christians that I would go to school with, they would think I’m crazy.

I remember one of my closest friends from college, they were like, why is the enemy attacking you like that, and not us? But, you know, now that I understand how the kingdom of darkness works and how the kingdom of God works, right, I understand that demons are very intelligent people, I mean, intelligent beings.

They know what you’re capable of. So they’re gonna go after certain people that have certain gifts that have been given to them by grace, by God. Now that I think about it, God had already planted a seed or a gift of vision in me, right, I just didn’t know that I had that gift. I thought I was crazy. So that whole thing where the enemy was planting lies in my head, that I was crazy all this time, and I was questioning my sanity.

After leaving college, it became even more, it became even worse, where I was questioning, like, is this real? You know, maybe I was just imagining this whole time that maybe God isn’t really real. Maybe this whole Satan thing isn’t really real, because I don’t see them in real life.

I was snared by his trap, this back and forth. Like, there were moments where, like, man, my life is hard. I need to go back to church. I need to go and get myself back in prayer, you know? But there was just something that was holding me back.

Adam

You go to Liberty, you graduate from there, and you know Jesus. Are you going to church? Are you getting into a community? Or are you just kind of floating?

Jennifer

When I left college, right, I went back home, and I had very little contact with people who were Christians.

I think that was a big problem too, when you have no accountability like that, you can go back to your flesh. So we’re carnal by nature. So we’re going to go back to our flesh when there’s no one to help you, or pull you up, or keep you accountable in the spirit. And so my parents couldn’t help me. They don’t really live that life.

I had a difficult relationship with my parents, you know, back and forth. They were very controlling people. And plus, I would witness my dad abusing my mother, my brother, and just down-talk us. It was just the drugs, the alcohol. I just didn’t know how to be around them.

I isolated myself a lot. And that’s what Satan wants: isolation. Isolating yourself, thinking that you’re the only one in this whole world who is suffering in your own mess. I left college, I tried to get a job, and support myself.

I go through just different jobs, some toxic jobs. And I made some not-so-good friends. I had neighbors who were not so good either. I mean, I remember my neighbors were just drinking next door, and I learned how to drink because of them.

I know every wine there is out there. We went to wineries, and they love playing music, and we just drank. That was supposed to be a way to escape.

Adam

Are you still having dreams at that point in your life?

Jennifer

No.

It was almost like the presence of God was withdrawn. Like, almost like I didn’t even know he was there or not. This is why I was in that mess, because I was deceived. I was deceived into thinking that God wasn’t with me. He’s always waiting for you to call out to him. But if you’re so drowned in your own sin, you can’t see that. Almost like you’re blinded by it. I remember different men in my life; I would let them just cross my boundaries because I was desperate for love.

I didn’t have the type of love from my parents. And so this history of rejection was just, I was just looking for acceptance. Cause I thought that if maybe I could just show them love, they’re gonna give me love back. But you know, people are not like that when they don’t have the spirit of God in them.

I was in these toxic relationships or situations with people who used me, and I didn’t know how to get out of them. It was just a cycle. So I went for years like that, just in and out of my faith. Sometimes I wanted to get back to God.

I just couldn’t let him in fully. And there were times when I remember just trying to drink, trying to go to sleep at night because I couldn’t sleep. I was so anxious. I even thought about maybe calling a psychiatrist or psychologist to help me cause I was in deep depression. There was just a lot of, you know, voices in my head saying to kill myself.

I had moments where I’m thinking, like, why am I still living?

Adam

I don’t think you’re alone in that. I feel like that’s just a common tactic of the enemy to try to, the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

I know a lot of people who have had those kinds of thoughts that I should just end it, and I don’t count for anything. I don’t mean anything. And that’s the exact opposite of what Jesus is telling us. You know, he loves us. He created us in his image. And it takes a lot of courage for you to share that. So thank you for sharing.

Jennifer

At this point, I didn’t know how to help myself. I just don’t know how to help myself anymore.

Adam

What do you think the resistance was? Because you had an encounter with Jesus in that dream, through that professor, in that movie. So you have some revelation about who he is, that he’s there for you. He’s this light, he’s a protector, he’s a savior. He goes to great lengths to show, to reveal his love.

You have some of that, but there’s also this resistance. What would you attribute that to? Is it the enemy? Is it that you don’t feel that you’re worthy? So you can’t, or is it fear that you can’t trust him, or you don’t know how to, or?

Jennifer

I think it’s a mix. Now that you’re bringing that question to light, I think it’s a mix. I think stemming from a history of rejection at a young age, not feeling valued by my parents, not feeling valued by their friends, I think that started with low self-esteem already. And then on top of that, I have this idea of control. Being exposed to the occult at a young age.

I thought that maybe I could just talk to someone, like a consultant who’s spiritual. Maybe they can help me and figure out the problems in my life, and they can show me the way. I was looking for other things besides God, because I thought God wasn’t speaking to me at that point, but I didn’t know that my own sin was also keeping him away from me. And so I was just calling these psychics, I was calling people, just random people that claim to know things. And I mean, I have to say, there are things that they said that were really resonating with me.

They knew my profession, they knew my job, and they knew my appearance at times, which is kind of scary. They’re just little things that you know, like there has to be something out there. So these mediums or clairvoyant people, they literally, you know, there were moments where they kind of knew my age too, they’re like, are you in your 30s? How do you know that? And they would know my hair color, this person I’m asking about, just certain things that regular people wouldn’t know.

They’re operating from some type of realm. And now that I know it’s just them being deceived by demonic spirits. So anything that is not of God is the spirit of divination. So they are deceiving themselves. They just think that they could speak to angelic light spirits or whatnot.

At this point, I was depending on that. And some of the stuff they promised did come to pass, but most of the things didn’t. And when it didn’t, I just became anxious. I didn’t know how to help myself. Again, it became this whole toxic cycle.

Calling these people, drinking. And at one point, I was just tired. I was just tired of being caught in that cycle. I remember my last relationship, I thought I was gonna get married to this person. It would have been a perfect match had we both been walking in line with God.

There were a lot of red flags that I didn’t catch from this person. But because I was also in the world, when you don’t fear God, you lack wisdom. So I was going through a rough time with my job already, a rough time with that relationship.

My dad was suffering from an illness. I remember just wanting to go back to church. And I was like, okay, I’m gonna try this church thing again. I remember looking up certain different churches, and there was one church that was standing out to me because it was so close to my house, and it had an afternoon service. So it was One City Church in Chesapeake, Virginia.

The first time I ever stepped into One City, I remember almost being enveloped. I felt like it was the Holy Spirit. Now that I think about it, it was just so thick, like the air was so thick. And I just walked in there, and I just felt almost like the presence of God in that room already, without the pastor even speaking yet. I sat in the back because I didn’t wanna be in the spotlight. I never really wanna be in the spotlight.

The pastor started talking about the sermon on Jonah. And if anyone knows about the story of Jonah, Jonah was running away from God. God had this assignment for him. He would have blessed him had Jonah listened to him. And I sat there in conviction, like my whole heart just dropped.

I said, “God, all these years, I’ve run away from you. I’ve run away from you because I was comfortable with my own lifestyle, my own sin. And I missed out on the blessings that you could have given me.” So I was just sitting there remorseful. I was crying.

I said, ” What have I done? What have I done? Like my life, why did I get myself into this mess? I remember God, like there was this voice in my head that was saying, ” It’s not too late. I’ve been calling you all this time.”

I’ve been waiting for you. So that night I came home, and I recommitted myself to God. I said, “God, just forgive me. Anything that I’ve done in my life, just forgive me. Take me back.”

I said, “I will do anything that you ask me to do. Here I am, just send me somewhere.” So at that time I decided that I’m gonna serve God. And I remember just reaching out to this homeless place. Reaching out to this homeless place.

I said, ” Hey, I’m a volunteer. Can you just take me in? I wanna serve you. They told me, ” We’re always looking for volunteers. And just being a part of that community just really grew me as a person.

That was just my first step. And I realized these homeless people are just like us. They just have a difficult life. They have a difficult life, and they’re looking for refuge, for a place. And to be a person who can testify that God is real and he cares, that was just special to me.

I remember driving away, and this homeless guy waved to me, and he said, “I love you.” And that was just so special. I was just like, I thought about that. And I remember just serving at this place for several months, and I wanted to do something else because I was like, okay, I’m on a roll now. God, just send me somewhere else.

I even contacted the prison ministry. There’s a saying in the Bible where I planned steps, but God ordained steps. So I was planning things. I was like, I’m gonna do this next. I’m gonna call the prison ministry.

They’re gonna take me in. And at that point, no one answered my call. I’m like, I didn’t know what was going on. No one answered my call, no emails, no nothing. When I checked my inbox, or I checked the website again, it was gone, it was closed down.

I knew the organization or the ministry closed down. So I was upset. I was like, I thought you’re gonna call me to these places, the hurting people, to help them. But that was not where he wanted me to be. And so now that I look back on it, when everything was falling apart at that time, I remember my dad, who had just passed around that time too.

It was just a rough time for me. I was telling God, I’ve done, and I’ve been serving you, but why am I still suffering? Because my health was declining. I was leaning internally, not anymore. So I’ll get to that later.

I had a gastrointestinal issue. My dad had passed. The person I thought I was gonna marry completely cut me off. There was no explanation. I don’t know why, but that was God’s protection, right?

I remember just being in the deepest pit of my life. I was in the deepest valley, right? But even then, God was with me. So God is God of mountains and valleys, they say. And so I remember, suddenly I started having dreams again.

This is where the dreams came back out of nowhere. And I saw, like I was in this room, I knew it was a stage. I could feel the texture of the stage as well. And this worship leader that I know from One City Church came up to me, placed his hand on my shoulder, and just started praying fervently over me. And then after that, I started having other dreams of our worship team praying together.

At that moment, I knew God was asking me to join the worship team, right? And I said, God, I haven’t sung in more than 10 years. I was like, why are you asking me to go back into something that I’m not even qualified for?

He’s like, I asked you to go and do what I say. You know, so I’ll qualify you. I auditioned, and I made it. And at this point, I didn’t really understand that dream or the meaning of it, until later on, when I joined for about a good month, and they were doing what is called the Secret Place.

The secret place is a study that our worship leader suggested. He said it actually helped his relationship with God. It brought him to a deeper connection with God in such a profound way that he feels like the team should study it. So he said, just pick up that book and read it. And so I went home, and I started reading this book, which is The Secret Place.

This is where it all made sense to me because this worship leader is a bridge for me to be in a deeper connection with God. He’s a bridge. He was the one who said, “That’s why he, in the dream, was praying over me.” Now the book becomes the bridge to my deeper connection with God. Once I start reading it, I start having dreams.

The first week, I thought maybe I was just tired. I’m going through a season of just having dreams. But after the second or third week, I’m like, no, this has a life of its own. This has a life of its own. It was almost like God was revealing Himself to me in a way that was tangible.

He’s always there. He talked to me this morning. The dreams were, it started out with just him wanting to heal me. He wants to heal the deepest wounds in my heart. I remember walking up to this building.

It was this vision that I had. Walking up to this building, it was like this building had no roof. So that means you’re operating with no protection. I was walking to this building with no roof. It was very dark, but there was a fire right in front of me. And then as I got closer to this fire, it was exposing all the sins. Exposing, you know, the wounds, the sins that were on my body. It was just a dirty mess.

I was a hot mess. And I was like, oh my God, like I felt so exposed. But the word says that he is a refining fire. He’s so holy as a refining fire. He’s gonna burn away anything impure. Anything that’s unclean, impure. Even though he’s saying that to get closer to him, I need to clean up. I need to make sure that nothing that is not of him is in my life. So you can believe it. I went home, and I just deleted every link, every file that I ever read that was not of God.

Any occult stuff that I was addicted to in the past, I got rid of it completely. Because I felt dirty.

Adam

Where is this in the timeline? You’re serving at a homeless ministry. You’re serving on the worship team.

What’s the timeline? And then where does this dream fit?

Jennifer

The dream fit right when I did The Secret Place. I was already on the worship team. But you know, the truth is, we all have our hidden sins that we believe were not sins.

I wasn’t drinking anymore at this point. I wasn’t doing anything like, you know, sleeping with people or whatnot. I was not doing that. I was just, you know, sometimes you get to that point where I like reading about stuff, and I didn’t know what I was reading was demonic.

Whenever you do that, you give the enemy legal access to yourself. So when I walk in that building with no roof, he’s saying that I’m operating without protection. And he was exposing the sins that are on my body that I need to clean up.

Adam

I think what’s interesting is that it requires a relationship, though.

It requires trust. I think God’s always, in my opinion, I think he’s always there. Scripture says he holds all things together. He’s created us. He’s everywhere.

But there’s some component of free will, maybe you call it, or the psychological damage that’s done to us, the wounds that we have. There’s this culmination of things that prevent us from releasing our authority. And I think that’s a surrender. It’s a surrender moment. And when you say, when you say, Jesus, take me back, I just think that’s beautiful.

And to me, that is the… I think sometimes we put language on it, Jesus inviting me, invite Jesus into my heart, or the sinner’s prayer. But I mean, that’s pretty pure, beautiful language to say, take me back. And I think that’s really at the heart of it. And then he can start revealing things to you and speaking to you.

You’re not always perfectly trusting him, but when you find that love, when you find that connection, then he can walk you through some of these things that maybe you didn’t even know were there and start to heal these things, to redeem these past things. And so I just think it’s beautiful that he’s restoring this language that you had with him through dreams and visions. And I think it’s an amazing gift. It’s really beautiful, powerful.

Jennifer

Thank you.

At this point, after that, I was just going through, and some of the leaders knew I was going through something because I didn’t look like myself. I was literally like my body couldn’t just, at that moment, I just went on a fast. It just went on a fast. I’m just dropping weight like crazy, but I was filled with the spirit. It’s almost like I was so remorseful that I couldn’t even eat.

I remember I couldn’t even talk. I was just staring at a blank wall, just being shocked by how holy he is. And I’m thinking like, I don’t deserve this. I don’t deserve his love. I don’t deserve just being in his divine presence.

I knew he wanted me to have a deeper connection with him. I just felt so unworthy. That was my first feeling. Because if you ever encountered God, it’s just so, it’s just so powerful. It will transform you.

At that point, I just knew God was real because he was showing up every night in just different ways. And he was showing me different parts of my life. I remember like, even the painful, deep childhood wounds that I had, he’s showing my old childhood house. Like I would visit it. Because he said, before you can help me heal people, you need to be healed yourself.

So we just go through this purification, just uprooting anything that was tearing me down. And when, you know, at the end of it, when it was done, I just remember him showing these different rooms, different parts of my life. Growing up, it just became new again. Like that verse that says, we’re a new creation in Christ, right? This is completely new.

Even the light switch was new. It was white, clean. It was the cleanest I ever seen, as a house would be. But he’s showing me that he cleaned me up. He cleaned me up from the mess I was in.

There was one vision I remember, like just getting into this bathtub, right? Of clear water. And whenever you see water, that’s the Holy Spirit being baptized in the Holy Spirit, right? And I just got into this bathtub myself, submerged myself in it. And when I got up, I was just in this river of blood.

This river of blood, in a positive sense, right? It’s just saying that I’m being cleansed by the blood of Jesus. I’m being covered by the blood of Jesus. I’m under his protection now. I have a new identity in Christ.

After being healed myself, he starts leveling you up, right? So just like any other believer, when you put your trust in God fully, when you let him in every part of your life, you’re not hiding anything from him. That is when he can work through you. That is when he can start blessing you. And that’s when he will start showing me different dreams of people who are suffering in their own sins.

There are even conversations that I could hear. In these dreams. And I thought like, maybe I’m just dreaming random stuff until somebody would say, that was the career decision that I had. How did you know? I never told you.

I’ve been praying about this. And God spoke through me to them to confirm that it’s the right direction for them. They’re like, “Oh my God, praise God.” I couldn’t believe myself. I mean, I didn’t know that was God until the person confirmed it.

Adam

So you had a dream about them wrestling with a decision. A career decision. You said, “Hey, I had this dream. Does it mean anything?” Or how did you approach them?

Jennifer

I just asked them, “How are you doing with your career?” And they were saying, you know, I don’t know. I’m thinking of some other options. And I told them what they told me in my dream. And word for word, that was their thought before they even said it.

So you know God was there. God was there. They had a conversation with somebody else, not with me. But in the dream, they had a conversation with me. So God is present in every detail of our lives.

He knows your thoughts. He knows what you’re going through. And that is just evidence of him being there. There are also other things, people wrestling with their own hidden sin. I mean, to protect the integrity of people, I’m not gonna mention anyone here.

I’ll just give you an example: there was a vision that I saw of a man standing in a mirror. And he was sitting in front of the sink. So I just knew that God was trying to purify him before he goes into this larger ministry that he’s supposed to minister to. And when I confronted him, I knew that he had some type of hidden sin. You know, and he just blatantly told me that he had this issue of lust.

He thanked me for bringing that to light for him. Because he thought that maybe if he’s up there ministering to people, no one would know, right? He was a good friend of mine, and he never really told me about it. But, you know, this is only what God would know.

There are times when God doesn’t want me to confront them; He just wants me to pray for them. So it was really tough seeing these things at first, because I didn’t know. Because I could literally feel their burdens, almost like I would cry when I see these things.

Adam

It becomes a stewardship where you have to steward this, and you have to depend on God and develop that communication of like, God, how do I steward it well? I imagine you’re learning that.

Jennifer

I am. I’m learning along with the people in my life. And when they confirmed it, I knew it was God. I feel like my faith has strengthened, not just through the dreams, but through the confirmation of people telling me. Some of this stuff came to pass, and I just, I’m like, wow, God just, not only does he know the past, he knows the future.

It’s already set in stone. He’d be telling me to ask somebody about a certain object, and they’d be holding it in their hand on the other side of the phone. I wouldn’t know that, I would just ask them. So he knows. He’s listening now.

Adam

That’s awesome. So where are you today? How would you describe things today? How are you doing?

Jennifer

I know, as I went through this process of healing, I’m a different person now.

There are moments where it’s hard to believe that I’m being chosen as God’s spokesman, God’s messenger, because I don’t see, I don’t see myself as quote-unquote prophet. But I know he wants to do something through me to help me heal people. There’s healing, there’s truth in his word. And so I just hope that people would know that God is always there with you. You just gotta turn away from your sins, you gotta clean yourself up.

That way, he can work through you; he can reveal himself to you in a more tangible way. Most people are just holding onto something, whether it’s finances, money, lust, addiction to drugs or alcohol, or something. But he can’t be associated with that. I know for a fact that right before I got on this platform, the devil didn’t want me to talk about this because it’s exposing the truth. It’s exposing him as a liar.

I mean, there was a six-faced demon that pinned me to the floor and grabbed me by the neck, tried to break my neck off. And I had to fight this demon off because it was almost like it shook the kingdom of darkness in such a heavy way. After all, I’m here to expose that lie. He’s out there to sow lies and deception in us, thinking that we can make it on our own without God. We can’t.

Adam

Right, amen.

That happened before you got on the call?

Jennifer

That was the day after I sent through my testimony, before you probably even read it. And he was so mad, he saw the potential in it. He was so mad, he attacked me. And at this point, you know, I saw demons in the past, but they never really physically touched me.

At this point, I felt them touching me. But God is also training me to not have that spirit of fear. So, especially when I have his love, his spirit, I rebuke them, I fight them off, and they have no power over me.

Adam

Perfect love casts out fear. That’s what I think it’s all about.

Starts with, Jesus, will you take me back? It’s beautiful.

Any other final thoughts, closing thoughts?

Jennifer

My hope is just for someone to let Jesus all the way in before it’s too late. Because he, right before I got on this call, he’s telling me, time is running out.

This is why it was so urgent for me to send it out. Like, maybe if I sent out my testimony, like, 20 years ago, it may not have been as strong as it is now, because I went through hell to get here. But sometimes you have to go on a detour, right? Before you understand that you can’t idolize anything above God, he’s the provider of all things. When you place him first in your life, he’s gonna bring everything together for you.

Whether it’s money, love, career, whatnot, he’s the source of all things.

Adam

All right, that’s a good word. Thank you for sharing.

Jennifer

Thank you for your, you know, just being a supporter and allowing me to get on this platform to speak the word of God to someone, because someone needs to hear it.

Adam

Totally. I think you should pray. Pray us out, if you don’t mind.

Jennifer

Yeah, absolutely. Father God, I just thank you so much for allowing me to speak your word and your truth to your people.

I pray that anyone who’s listening to this testimony live, would you just speak to their heart, open their eyes, help them to see the truth, that they need to turn away from their sins, and their secular ways of life, and just ask you to come into their heart, Lord. I pray that their hearts will be transformed, that they will choose you, and not the things of this world. In Jesus’ name.

Adam

Amen. Beautiful.

All right, love you guys.